Well i broke down and got a VIBRATING collar, NOT A SHOCK collar, for Jake.
but he's just not listening. He barks a lot, he wont stop going in the pond area, and he jumps, we tried a spray collar, to messy, and we were going to hire a trainer, but Pete and Tom and I (cause it requires everyone involved) can't seem to find 2 hours free time together. Also the trainer uses a clicker, and I don't see how that will work with 4 dogs. We will try this collar and hope for the best. Sigh
He's a GOOD BOY